Steve Bannon, the former chief strategist for President Donald Trump, was interrogated for 20 hours over two days this week as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, according to a person familiar with the process.
The person, who was not authorized to publicly discuss the investigation and thus declined to be identified, said Bannon answered every question Mueller’s team asked. That’s in contrast to a Thursday interview with the House intelligence committee, in which Bannon, despite a subpoena, declined to answer some of the lawmakers’ questions — just as he did in an appearance before the committee in January.
While the exact questions for Bannon were unknown, Mueller is investigating whether there was any coordination between Trump’s campaign and Russians who meddled in the 2016 election, and also whether there have been any efforts to obstruct the FBI probe into those contacts. The House panel is investigating the meddling and whether Trump’s campaign was involved.
Because Bannon was one of Trump’s top advisers, both Mueller and the lawmakers were expected to question him about key events during his time in the White House, including Trump’s firings of former national security adviser Michael Flynn and former FBI Director James Comey.
Pre-approved questions
After Bannon’s roughly three-hour interview on Capitol Hill, Republicans on the House intelligence panel were weighing whether to hold him in contempt. According to lawmakers of both parties, he would answer only 25 questions that had been pre-approved by the White House regarding any events in the period after Trump’s election. His answer to each question was “no,” and he told the committee he was not authorized to elaborate.
Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have been critical of the White House’s sweeping interpretation of executive privilege and its contention that pretty much everything is off limits until the president says it’s not.
The escalating fight between Congress and the White House over the privilege issue has centered on Bannon, an outsized figure in Trump’s campaign and White House and an inspiration to some conservatives as he has publicly battled the Republican establishment. He was fired from the White House last summer, and more recently had a falling out with Trump after the January publication of a book in which he sharply criticized Trump family members.
Despite his fractured relationship with Trump, Bannon has followed White House direction as the House lawmakers have sought to talk to him. At issue is whether Bannon can talk about the presidential transition, his time at the White House, and communications with Trump and others since he left last summer.
Texas Representative Mike Conaway, the Republican leading the panel’s Russia probe, said committee Republicans would discuss whether to hold Bannon in contempt with House lawyers and with House Speaker Paul Ryan, who is likely to have the final say.
“That’s an ongoing conversation we’ll have among an awful lot of lawyers,” Conaway said after Bannon’s interview.
At least one Republican on the intelligence panel said before the interview that a contempt vote would be necessary if Bannon was uncooperative. Florida Representative Tom Rooney said Tuesday that if Bannon didn’t cooperate with the panel and they didn’t hold him in contempt, that would set a bad precedent.
“For not just our committee but every committee, that [subpoenas] don’t mean anything, that it’s just a hollow threat,” Rooney said. “You can’t do that.”
Example of ‘stonewalling’
Democrats are pushing for a contempt vote, with the top Democrat on the intelligence panel, California Representative Adam Schiff, saying he believed Bannon’s non-answers were all an attempt to draw out and block the Russia probe.
“That’s not how privilege works, that’s how stonewalling works,” Schiff said. “And we cannot take that kind of stonewalling for an answer.”
Negotiations between the House and White House have been ongoing since Bannon’s first interview, and several interviews have been scheduled and postponed in recent weeks. As lawmakers headed into the meeting ahead of Bannon’s entrance, they appeared unsure whether he would arrive.
Bannon is one of the committee’s few remaining witnesses in its Russia probe, which Republicans on the panel have said they want to wrap up early this year.
The Senate intelligence committee is running a separate investigation into the Russian meddling. The Senate panel hasn’t yet spoken to Bannon, according to a source familiar with the probe. The person declined to be named because the interview schedule isn’t public.
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